When not to judge a band by its debut… the short listBy
Douglas Newman
As I stood watching Radiohead during their stunning performance this past weekend, I thought to myself how unbelievable it is that this is the same band that recorded “Creep,” a Gen-X anthem and relic from the glory days of grunge. Without passing judgment on the merits of “Pablo Honey,” Radiohead’s debut album from which the single was taken, few can argue that it’s not an anomaly when considering the band’s catalog to date.
Here’s my short list: Piper at the Gates of Dawn – Pink Floyd Beastie Boys – License to Ill Bob Dylan – Bob Dylan Y Kant Tori Read – Y Kant Tori Read Radiohead - Pablo Honey
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Tim said:
You sir are a moron. How old are you? Both Pablo Honey and License to Ill were great albums. The changes you describe are just part of a band maturing and finding new sounds. Perhaps you just heard the groups after they became critically acclaimed, rather than discovering the artists yourself. Douglas said:
First of all, age is not a factor is determining how qualified I am to assess an artist’s catalog. I guarantee you that no classical music critic was alive when Beethoven wrote his first symphony, but he/she can still examine the composer’s canon objectively. Second of all, I purchased Licensed to Ill and Pablo Honey when they were first released. I saw the Beasties on the Licensed to Ill tour and have seen Radiohead numerous times pre-OK Computer. So if you disagreed with my first argument above, then this fact negates it. Third of all, did you even read my post? I never pass judgment on the albums in this list. I merely mention that they are unrepresentative of what the artists would later become most well known for. In fact, one of the albums on the list is my favorite by that artist. Fourthly (as George Bush would say), there are many bands who arrive on the scene fully formed with world-class debuts, so the maturing argument is kind of weak. Guns ‘n Roses, Television, Patti Smith, Stone Roses, Elvis Costello…all definitive debuts. Finally, I appreciate the fiery response. There’s nothing I love more than spurring people to write passionately about their musical opinions. And while I think calling me a moron was a little harsh, I welcome your criticism. Fight on! Josh said:
I just recently heard the first Pink Floyd album, and indeed it is unrecognizable as Pink Floyd compared to just about everything that came later. Saul said:
Well said and retorted Douglas. Bands like Stone Roses indeed seemed to suffer something of a devolution after a brilliant debut (albeit down to internal fractures). Meanwhile other bands don’t seem to move to much between debut and follow up: The Coral, Libertines and Gomez debut/follow ups often feel like part I and II of the same outing. Beyond those first outings the maturation becomes apparent (or the breakdown occurs). guy said:
You forgot the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Their first few albums (i think 3?) sold almost nothing, and then suddenly they put forth one multi-platinum album after another. Andrew said:
I immediately thought of Aimee Mann. From the godawful ‘Til Tuesday song “Voices Carry” to an accomplished singer/songwriter was a dramatic transition. Also, Fleetwood Mac was a smokin’ British blues band that transitioned into the epitomy of ’70s cheeze. One more: Play David Bowie’s debut album [If you can find it.] for your most hardcore music fan friends and see if any can identify the genesis of the Thin White Duke. Douglas said:
I came very close to including David Bowie’s debut on my list. Fleetwood Mac is a good example similar to Pink Floyd above (basically the loss of a key member drastically changed the direction of the band). IMO ‘Til Tuesday released some great songs. They just happened to come out at the height of the popular ’80s sheen that ruined so many good tunes. ikebuck said:
the first two Pink Floyd albums are among their best. I disagree with that example, as they peaked at Meddle as far their ‘Pink Floyd-ness’ goes. From Dark Side on, they de-evolved into a banal vehicle for Roger Waters bad writing. |
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